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TCC Minutes November 7, 2005

TRANSPORTATION AND CIRCULATION COMMISSION
Monday, November 7, 2005 ------4:00 p.m.
City Council Chamber ------- City Hall


COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
J. Michael Cochran, Vice Chairperson
Stephen Hall
Angela Lindstrom
Rosa Nowels, Chairperson
John Olmsted
Patrick Robeson

STAFF ABSENT:
Robert Gonzalez

STAFF PRESENT:
Don Hoppe, Director of Engineering
Mark Miller, Consultant City Traffic Engineer
Lt. Doug Cave, Fullerton Police Department
Dave Langstaff, Traffic Engineering Analyst
Teri Carlson, Senior Traffic Engineering Aide
Susan McGraw, Recording Secretary

CALL TO ORDER

Chairperson Nowels called the Transportation & Circulation Commission meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Commissioner Olmsted corrected the October 3, 2005, Minutes to change STAFF ABSENT to COMMISSIONERS ABSENT in the Heading; Chairperson Nowels' name was incorrectly spelled on page 3. Vice Chairperson Cochran motioned to accept the Minutes as corrected. Commissioner Hall seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

NEW BUSINESS

1. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A DISABLED PERSON'S PARKING SPACE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AT 1352 WEST GAGE AVENUE.

Consultant City Traffic Engineering Miller presented staff's report, and advised that although not supported by staff, there is no recommendation to deny the request. There seems to be sufficient on-street parking and a two-car garage.

Commissioner Olmsted questioned if direct access to the dwelling is a consideration of this type of request, to which Mr. Miller responded no.

The hearing was open for public discussion.

Mrs. Palm, 1352 West Gage, stated that her request for two spaces was for a parking space on either/or Basque or Gage. Only one space is actually necessary. Her concern is the residence behind her, which is currently under construction for an addition and already has five vehicles. Parking is unavailable in the afternoon and on weekends on Gage, and when the addition is complete, there will be three more cars at the residence. Her driveway is extra short and they in fact poured the concrete pad in the parkway to accommodate loading and unloading of her mother's wheelchair. A space on either Basque or Gage would be acceptable.

The hearing was closed to further public comment.

Commissioner Lindstrom made a motioned to approve a disabled person's parking space on Basque Avenue adjacent to 1352 West Gage Avenue. Commissioner Olsted seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

2. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A DISABLED PERSON'S PARKING SPACE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AT 711 WEST WILSHIRE AVENUE.

Mr. Miller presented staff's report and recommended approval of 25 feet of painted blue curb in front of 711 West Wilshire Avenue to accommodate the assisted living/medical services required for the Cogan's son.

No one was present to speak to this item during the Public Comment segment.

Commissioner Olmsted motioned to approve staff's recommendation. Commissioner Lindstrom seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.

3. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO INSTALL STOP SIGNS ON BAKER AVENUE AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH ORCHARD AVENUE.

Mr. Miller presented staff's report, stating that this intersection presently is a two-way stop. The recommendation is to deny the request for a four-way stop, since findings have determined that the standards in the Manual On Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) for a four-way stop are not met. Currently, speed surveys indicate 36 mph as the 85th percentile, and Orchard is appropriately signed. Overnight parking is prohibited on the west side of Orchard south of Baker.

Mr. Miller commented that most drivers along this street are residents of the area who have become familiar with the street. It would be appropriate to install 25 mph signs as a reminder that it is a through residential street. Baker is also designated as a signed (only) bike route from its eastern end (Highland) to Pacific over to Brookhurst, and is proposed as an alternate route to the bike lane (striped) on Orangethorpe.

Mr. Miller responded to Commissioner Robeson and Chairperson Nowels that although the 85th percentile indicates 36 mph, posting as a prima facie speed of 25 mph allows enforcement without use of radar per the FMC.

Commissioner Robeson inquired about the future of calming devices in the City. Mr. Miller indicated speed humps may be a resolution, but would need support of a large area of residents. The main consideration when using humps is emergency vehicles. Traffic circles would also be effective.

Commissioner Lindstrom suggested using the speed read-out panels. Mr. Miller advised they are still being reviewed for effectiveness. The panels in force now were received by a grant and would be an expensive means to slow traffic. The primary purpose of this device is to monitor speed in school zones.

Commissioner Robeson expressed concern that drivers tend to speed up between intersections on a long stretch.

Mr. Miller opined that speed bumps are a viable option, however, the main consideration would be the effect on emergency vehicles; traffic circles will break up the visual continuity of a long, straight street, but are expensive; and the neighborhood must have unanimity to carry any request forward to the City Council.

The hearing was opened for public comment.

The following persons addressed the Commission, expressing concerns of excessive speed; accidents not reported; long stretch with no stopping; more traffic and faster speeds on Fridays and Saturdays as opposed to staff's midweek study; calming devices would be appropriate, i.e., speed humps, more signing; change in demographics, i.e., more children, teenage drivers.

Pete Baron, 1219 West Baker
Dolores Cervantes, 1201 West Baker
Paul Acevedo, 1226 West Baker
Carolyn Goodwin, 1424 South Orange Avenue
William Haas, 1222 West Baker
Vicki Hansen, 1119 West Baker

Closed to Public Comment.

Commissioner Lindstrom stated the evening problems could be helped with enforcement; a letter from the City should be addressed to the auto dealer regarding customer test driving in the neighborhood; a staff meeting with the neighborhood residents would be productive; defended staff

Commissioner Olmsted concurred that enforcement is an issue; speed humps and traffic circles are good ideas; stop signs are unlikely to solve the problem.

Commissioner Lindstrom suggested that this area would be a good location for a pilot program.

Commissioner Robeson made a motion to deny staff's recommendation and to APPROVE the request to install stop signs on Baker Avenue at its intersection with Orchard Avenue.

There was concurrence among the Commissioners that stop signs are most likely not the resolution to the problems expressed by the residents who addressed the Commission. Other alternatives are possibly available, more significantly related to "calming devices", i.e., speed bumps, traffic circles, dips, roadway signing, or possibly investigating a different intersection that might meet the required criteria. However, it was also expressed that stop signs are currently the only alternative available at this time.

Commissioner Hall seconded the motion after conclusion of discussion, and the motion passed (5-1), Commissioner Lindstrom dissenting.

Chairperson Nowels cautioned the audience to stick to facts when addressing the City Council; and Commissioner Roberson advised that more in attendance would be beneficial. In that regard, it was requested by a resident to place this item on an evening agenda. Staff advised the matter would be considered, and that this item may appear on the December 20 City Council agenda.

4. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO INSTALL STOP SIGNS ON GILBERT STREET AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH ROBERTA AVENUE.

Mr. Miller presented staff's report which indicated that the request did not meet the established warrants for four-way stop. It was recommended that the pedestrian crosswalks be upgraded to include pedestrian signing, fresh painting; installation of 30 mph speed signs; and red curbing at corners.

Commissioner Olmsted noted that Gilbert has higher traffic volumes, characteristic of an arterial while only considered a residential collector street.

Commissioner Cochran made the motion to accept staff recommendation to deny the request for stop signs on Gilbert Avenue at Roberta Avenue. Commissioner Olmsted seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

5. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO INSTALL A MARKED CROSSWALK ON ORANGETHORPE AVENUE IN THE VICINITY OF PECKHAM STREET

Mr. Miller presented staff's report and findings. He instructed that the basic purpose of a crosswalk is to 'channelize' pedestrians. There currently are no uncontrolled crosswalks on Orangethorpe, and the City has been in the process of removing unwarranted crosswalks. Staff does not endorse mid-block crosswalks.

Commissioner Olmsted commented that this is indeed a hardship for Manor residents, however a crosswalk is not safe, and possibly the bus stop can be moved.
The meeting was opened for public comment.

Bob Haddock, Ombudsman (advocate for residents of assisted living facilities), stated many who currently cross Orangethorpe in this vicinity are elderly, frail, and find it difficult to walk to the signalized intersections. It is his responsibility to do whatever is necessary to insure the safety of these elderly residents.

Commissioner Robeson inquired about the main reason to cross this street at all. Mr. Haddock stated the residents shop at the market - for personal and incidental items, to which Commissioner Robeson stated the facility should make accommodations to get residents where they want/need to go.

Charlene Thomas, 2441 West Orangethorpe, stated she has observed constant crossing, i.e., mothers with strollers, elderly. It is dangerous crossing this street, however it is nearly a mile (roundtrip) to a signalized intersection.

The Public Session was closed.

Commissioner Cochran made the motion to accept staff recommendation to deny the request to install a marked crosswalk on Orangethorpe Avenue in the vicinity of Peckham Street. Commissioner Robeson seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

COUNCIL REVIEW

Director of Engineering Hoppe advised on recent City Council actions related to T&CC recommendations made to that entity:

  • Approved a request for a disabled person's parking space in front of the property at 1808 Oak Avenue.
  • Approved a staff recommendation to designate all of Beach Boulevard within the City of Fullerton for "no stopping anytime".
  • Approved a staff recommendation to install "no stopping anytime" parking restrictions on both sides of State College Boulevard from Rolling Hills to the North City Llimits.
  • Approved a request to remove the overnight parking restriction between the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. on the south side of Valencia Drive between Jensen Way and Gilbert Street, but also included the north side as per the original request.
  • Denied, 2-2, a request to remove the overnight parking restriction between the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. on both sides of Rosslynn Avenue between Pomona Avenue and its westerly terminus; and on both sides of Rosslynn avenue between Pomona Avenue and its easterly terminus.
Other matters considered by the City Council included

  • Approval and authorization for a one-way couplet study to analyze the feasibility of converting portions of Harbor Boulevard and Lemon Street in Downtown Fullerton to one-way couplets conducted by Albert Grover & Associates.
Future items for City Council include:

  • November 15, 2005 - Consideration of policies/definitions regarding "hardship permits" from the Early Morning Parking regulations as stated in the Fullerton Municipal Code. It is NOT a discussion to eliminate overnight parking.

PUBLIC COMMENTS

Public comments will be allowed on matters not appearing on the agenda but within the Commission's jurisdiction.

None.

ADJOURNMENT

The regular meeting of the Transportation and Circulation Commission was adjourned at 6:02 p.m. to February 6, 2006.

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