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TCC Minutes October 4, 2004

City Council Chambers---------City Hall
Monday, October 4, 2004---------4:00 p.m.

COMMISSIONERS PRESENT Brent Hardwick
Angela Lindstrom
Rosa Nowels, Vice-Chairman
John Olmsted
Patrick Robeson, Chairman
Vacancy
ABSENT: J. Michael Cochran
STAFF PRESENT Don Hoppe, Director of Engineering
Mark Miller, City Traffic Engineer
Lt. Cave, Police Department
Dave Langstaff, Traffic Engineering Analyst
Teri Carlson, Senior Traffic Engineering Aide
Susan McGraw, Recording Secretary

CALL TO ORDER

Chairman Robeson called the Transportation and Circulation Commission meeting to order at 4:05 P.M.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Commissioner Nowels made a motion to accept the minutes as submitted. Commissioner Olmsted seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.

NEW BUSINESS

  1. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO RESCIND THE OVERNIGHT PARKING EXEMPTION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LOMA ALTA DRIVE BETWEEN VIA MIRADA AND SUNSET LANE.

    City Traffic Engineer Mark Miller presented staffs report. This request was submitted at the request of Councilmember Nelson on behalf of the property owner at 2241 Loma Alta. No negative responses have been received from the contacted property owners.

    Staffs recommendation is to rescind the overnight parking exemption on the north side of Loma Alta Drive between Via Mirada and Sunset Lane.

    Commissioner Olmsted inquired if the fee requesting the overnight exemption has been paid. Mr. Miller advised that this request was received prior to the effective date of July 1, 2004. Commissioner Olmsted further inquired if the fee will be the same for anyone requesting an exemption from the overnight parking restriction to which Mr. Miller replied in the affirmative.

    Commissioner Olmsted also commented that this request is contrary to the policy of full block exemption policy. Mr. Miller stated that the whole block of Loma Vista - via Mirada and Sunset would be less confusing. Strictly speaking, the exemption would not be allowed because the homes all have two-car garages.

    Commissioner Lindstrom asked that administratively, shouldnt a request like this be submitted through a petition? Mr. Miller advised that considering the circumstance, staff decided to bring this forward as a staff request. All property owners concerned were notified of the request. Mr. Miller stated, at the request of Commissioner Olmsted, that this will not set a precedent.

    Chairman Robeson opened the hearing to public comment

    Mrs. Florence Shea, 2241 Loma Alta, stated the two buildings west of her home are actually fourplexes, discussed availability of garages and the alley for parking, confusion over conflicting signs regarding the parking restriction and street sweeping, and the fact that many of the parked vehicles in front of her residence belong to tenants of the condominiums across the street.

    The public comment segment was closed.

    Commissioner Lindstrom asked if petitions are signed by the property owners, not tenants. Mr. Miller responded that typically it is the property owner who signs the petition.

    Mr. Hoppe addressed Mr. Olmsteds question regarding a precedent being set. At this point, it is not possible to determine, if directed by the City Council to review removal of a parking exemption on a particular street, if a petition would be sent out or rather just notice for a public hearing. The code is set to perfect the exemption, not its removal, and will depend upon the individual request.

    Chairman Robeson is concerned there will be an issue with the other two residents on the same block, and consideration should be given to where the block starts and stops. He further recommended that the overnight parking exemption be removed on both sides of the street. Mr. Hoppe explained that the resident on the south side was not notified as required by the Brown Act.

    Further discussion among the Commissioners concerned how this issue was put before them. It seems to raise the question of shortcuts by eliminating the petition, which has been the established process.

    Commissioner Olmsted motioned to ACCEPT staffs recommendation to rescind the overnight parking exemption on the north side of Loma Alta drive between Via Mirada and sunset lane. Commissioner Lindstrom seconded the motion, which passed 4-1, Chairman Robeson opposed.

  2. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE 2-HOUR PARKING RESTRICTION IN THE 1800 BLOCK OF CAROL DRIVE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 A.M. AND 4:00 P.M., SATURDAY, SUNDAY AND HOLIDAYS EXEMPT.

    City Traffic Engineer Miller presented staffs report, which was initiated at the request of a majority of local property owners who maintain that the local commercial property uses in the area have changed.

    Staff supports a recommendation to the City Council to remove the two-hour parking restriction

    In response to an observation noted by Commissioner Olmsted, Mr. Miller advised that although a car dealership still exists present on Commonwealth, it is now a used car dealership and draws less traffic than the previous new car dealership.

    Chairman Robeson opened the hearing for public comment.

    Mr. Ken Lindstrom, 1891 Carol Drive, stated there is no problem with leaving the signs, but wants to know why, after 12 years, the parking restriction is suddenly being enforced.

    Chairman Robeson explained that usually someone calls the police with a complaint.

    Commissioner Olmsted asked that if the signs are removed, does the neighborhood anticipate any recurrence of the original problem with extended parking, to which Mr. Lindstrom responded no.

    The public comment segment was closed.

    Commissioner Hardwick motioned to ACCEPT staffs recommendation to remove the 2-hour parking restrictions in the 1800 block of Carol Drive between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., Saturday, Sunday and holidays exempt. Commissioner Lindstrom seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

  3. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO INSTALL STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF BASQUE AVENUE AND WOODCREST AVENUE; AND AT BASQUE AVENUE AND ROBERTA AVENUE.

    City Traffic Engineer Mark Miller presented staffs report to approve and recommend installation of two-way stops on Woodcrest and Roberta. The request was to install four-way stops at these intersections. After reviewing the warrants for four-way stops, it was determined that these intersections did not meet the necessary criteria. However, after observing the neighborhoods, staff did determine that the volumes of traffic on these two streets do indicate that two-way stops would be appropriate.

    No one was in the audience to address this item.

    Commissioner Hardwick motioned to ACCEPT staffs recommendation to install two-way stop signs at the intersections of Basque Avenue and Woodcrest Avenue; and at Basque Avenue and Roberta Avenue. Commissioner Olmsted seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

  4. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO INSTALL RED CURB ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERMOSA DRIVE FROM THE WESTERLY DRIVEWAY OF HERMOSA DRIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO 100 FEET WEST OF SAID DRIVEWAY.

    City Traffic Engineer Mark Miller presented staffs report to approve and recommend the installation of red curb in this location at the request of Principal Jennifer Sheperd, who is concerned with the congestion caused by cars parking in a drop-off area.

    No one was present in the audience to address this item. Consequently, there was no public comment segment.

    Commissioner Olmsted motioned to ACCEPT staffs recommendation to install red curb on the south side of Hermosa Drive from the westerly driveway of Hermosa Drive Elementary School to 100 feet west of said driveway. Commissioner Hardwick seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

  5. DISCUSS THE COMMISSIONERS WORKSHOP.

    Mr. Miller stated that due to the overwhelming success of the previous workshop provided by the Traffic Engineers Association, a second workshop is being offered again this year. There will be different speakers, including Mr. Miller; new information from the Federal level regarding school zone areas; the traffic manual will not be used as it is currently recognized, but will be under the new federal Manual and Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) and the 2004 California Supplement; new sign designations; and new traffic signal operations.

    All Commissioners are invited at a cost of $80.

    The Federal government is also interested in a new type of protective/permissive operation and requesting cities to experiment with this new type using a flashing yellow arrow instead of a three-section traffic signal head, it will be a four-section head. The City has applied to experiment at three intersections.

    A presentation is available online at www.kittelson.com

COUNCIL REVIEW

Director Hoppe advised that City Council approved the following items:

August 17

  • Overnight parking on Fisler

September 21

  • East Walnut - no parking anytime
  • East Whiting - 70-foot loading zone
  • T intersections around Topaz Lane School
  • Cherry Avenue overnight parking exemption
  • Orangethorpe Avenue frontage road restricted parking

Items from this meeting will be presented to the City Council at its October 19, 2004 meeting.

PUBLIC COMMENTS

Public comments will be allowed on matters not appearing on the agenda but within the Commission's jurisdiction.

No one wished to address the Commission at this segment.

ADJOURNMENT

The Transportation & Circulation Commission was adjourned at 5:10 p.m. to the next regular meeting on November 1, 2004.

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