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TCC Minutes July 7, 1997

TCC Minutes July 7, 1997



City Council Chambers- - - - - City Hall
Monday, July 7, 1997 - - - - - 4:00 P. M.

Vince Buck (left 5:55 p.m.)
Michael DiCostanzo (left 5:45 p.m.)
LeAnn French
Brent Hardwick, Vice-Chairman
Al Hawkins, Chairman
John Seminara
Lou Grushen
Robert Hodson, Director of Engineering
Don Hoppe, Assistant City Engineer
Mark Miller, City Traffic Engineer
Dave Langstaff, Traffic Technician
Sgt. Neal Baldwin, Fullerton Police Dept.
Jeanie Mitterholzer, Recording Secretary


Chairman Hawkins called the regular meeting of the Transportation and Circulation Commission to order at 4:00 p.m.


Minutes were approved as submitted.


City Traffic Engineer Mark Miller stated this request came from the Transportation and Circulation Commission meeting of April 7, 1997. Staff's recommendation was to re-stripe Dorothy Lane between Victoria Drive and State College Boulevard. A Class II bike route is located on Dorothy Lane which is currently posted for "No Stopping Anytime" on both sides of the street.

In November 1996, the City installed 2:00 - 4:00 p.m. turn restrictions for westbound through movement on Dorothy Lane at the middle driveway of Troy High School. The turn restrictions were installed on a temporary basis. At the April 7, 1997 meeting, staff installed additional signs prohibiting westbound left turns from Dorothy into the middle driveway of Troy High School between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. and to investigate a permanent solution to the problem. Since that time, staff has received countless complaints from parents, students and school faculty regarding the restrictions. Due to the congested circulation within the school parking lot and limited gaps in the eastbound traffic, vehicles are unable to enter the driveway thereby causing westbound vehicles to encroach within the bike lane.

Recent bicycle counts were conducted on June 3, 1997 (7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.) that indicated 22 bicyclists were observed traveling both east and west. During the morning hours, two bicyclists were observed traveling westbound and eight eastbound. These bicycle counts were taken when CSUF was not in session. Based on the existing bicycle counts, staff has developed an alternative striping modification for Dorothy Lane in front of Troy High School. This proposal would provide one 15-foot lane of travel in each direction, 10-foot left-turn pockets, and changing the bike lanes to Class III. The addition of left-turn pockets at the middle and westerly driveways and the 15-foot travel lanes would eliminate the potential for vehicles to use the bike lane to pass stopped traffic. This option would result in the removal of the existing turn restrictions between the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and 2:00 to 4:00 p.m., reducing the delay of traffic on Dorothy Lane and improving the circulation of traffic within the Troy High School parking lot.

Discussions with Troy High School staff indicate support for this proposal. Approval of staff's recommendation would result in Dorothy Lane from Victoria Drive to State College Boulevard becoming a Class III bike route. Because Dorothy Lane is currently designated as a Class II bike route in the General Plan, an amendment to the General Plan would have to be presented to the Planning Commission for approval and submission to City Council for adoption. City Traffic Engineer Miller recommended that this proposal be implemented before school begins in September.

Commissioner Seminara asked staff to explain the difference between a Class II and Class III bike route. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated a Class II bike route is signed and striped and a Class III bike route is signed only and has no pavement markings. Commissioner Seminara also asked if the Class II bike route was substandard in width. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated there are some areas of this Class II bike route that are substandard in width.

Commissioner Buck wants to know what problem we are trying to solve. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated traffic is backing up on Dorothy Lane all the way to State College Boulevard and drivers proceeding along Dorothy Lane are encroaching into the bike lane to get around vehicles. Commissioner Buck also asked what percentage of vehicles are trying to get into Troy High School and what percentage are through traffic. City Traffic Engineer stated that about 70% are trying to get into the school.. City Traffic Engineer Miller explained with the two driveways having left-turn pockets in which to turn into, traffic should not back up. Commissioner Buck stated he would like to see it be more internal with the school directly and not disrupt the bicycle lanes on the street.

Commissioner Seminara asked how much stacking would be able to get into the left turn pockets. Traffic Engineer Miller stated five vehicles can fit into the left-turn pockets and other vehicles can stack up to about 400 feet in the left-turn lane. Vehicles will then not encroach into the bike lane because they can drive through. Commissioner Buck asked why would bicyclists be better off sharing a 15-foot lane. Traffic Engineer Miller stated we are giving the bicyclist a false sense of security because vehicles are encroaching into the bike lanes.

Public comments were opened.

Karen Haluza, 335 West Jacaranda Place
Gene Hiegel, 1410 Harmony Lane
Mr. Eric Streitberger, 1460 Kensington Drive
Mrs. Florence Cavalier, 2861 Amherst Drive
Mrs. Lynnell Cittadin, 672 East Dorothy Drive
Marian Sheddon, 1518 East Nutwood Avenue
Charles Buck, 1336 Richman Knoll
Denny Bean, 1529 Yermo Place, (Bicycle User's Subcommittee member)
All spoke in favor of retaining the bike lane.

Chuck Maruca, Assistant Principal of Troy High School, 2200 East Dorothy Lane, stated the problem with Troy High School is there is only one entrance onto the campus. Mr. Maruca stated there are 2200 students who attend Troy High School. Vehicles will gain access to the school by adding two left-turn lanes where through drivers could go around the flow of traffic. Mr. Maruca stated the school would also like to see a right-turn only as you exit the parking lot so it will allow for better circulation of traffic out of the school and prevent any problems or accidents. ,p> Chairman Hawkins asked how many students are coming from outside of attendance area. Mr. Maruca stated about 75% of the student population come from outside of the attendance area and there is no transportation provided for the magnet school program. Mr. Maruca thanked the police department for everything it has done to help with this problem.

Public comment was closed.

Commissioner Seminara would like to see other alternatives explored and this item should be continued for further study by staff. Chairman Hawkins would like the bike counts to be accurate and to include CSUF bike commuters. Vice-Chairman Hardwick then made a motion to return this item back to staff for further studies to be presented at the Transportation and Circulation Commission's October meeting. Commissioner French seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.

City Traffic Engineer Miller stated this request originated from the Bicycle Users Subcommittee to eliminate a through lane in each direction on Acacia Avenue and to add striping of an interim Class II bike lane. Parking would be allowed on both sides of Acacia. Based on the Transportation and Circulation Commissioner's comments and staff analysis, the proposal would then be forwarded to City Council with a resolution stating there would be no permanent structure or policy impediments to prevent re-establishing four vehicular traffic lanes in the future when its warranted. This requires OCTA approval for lane reductions and when approval is received, it will be returned to the Commission a proposed plan and cost estimate for the Acacia Avenue "temporary" bike lanes.

Acacia Avenue is a secondary highway on the City's Circulation Element and the Master Plan of Arterial Highways for the County. Acacia Avenue is currently consistent with secondary highway standards for four lanes. In order to reduce Acacia Avenue to two lanes to accommodate the bike lanes, approval must be obtained from OCTA in order still meet Measure M requirements.

As part of the approval process, OCTA will require a traffic analysis of all critical intersections to determine the levels of service with the four traffic lanes vs. the proposed reduction to two lanes. Staff will prepare these calculations after updated existing traffic counts, including bicycles and the turning movements are completed. This data would then be submitted to OCTA for their review and approval. Staff has also prepared a preliminary cost estimate for restriping the street.

Recent bike counts taken in the vicinity of Ladera Vista Junior High indicated there were 29 bicyclists traveling northbound and 30 southbound. This bike count was done between 7:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. The counts were conducted while school was in session. A 13-foot bike lane would be installed (6 foot for the bike lane and 7 foot for parking). Recent speed surveys done in March 1997 indicate that the 85th percentile was 44 miles per hour.

Director of Engineering Robert Hodson stated there will e no funding available from the State Bicycle monies (SB821) for the next two years. The only other possible sources would be Gas Tax or Measure M Turnback which must be approved by Council.

Public comment was open.

Denny Bean, 1529 Yermo Place, (Bicycle Users Subcommittee member) stated he is a strong advocate of bike riding and this would increase bicycle traffic in the area.

Public comment was closed.

Commissioner Seminara then made a motion to accept staff's recommendation to restripe Acacia Avenue between Chapman Avenue and the south City limits. Commissioner Buck seconded the motion. Chairman Hawkins does not like the reduction of one lane on Acacia Avenue. Commissioner Seminara he agreed with Chairman Hawkins in principal, but when traffic demands, this can be returned to four lanes. The motion failed 3 - 2 (French, Hawkins and Hardwick voted against).

City Traffic Engineer Miller stated staff was contacted by the property owner at 825 North Raymond Avenue concerning the speed of vehicles on Raymond Avenue between Chapman Avenue and Dorothy Lane. Although this portion of Raymond Avenue is exempt from the provisions in the California Vehicle Code requiring that the speed limit be established on the basis of a traffic engineering survey, staff has conducted engineering studies and found that the combined 85th percentile speed is 34 miles per hour.

The criteria used by the City to warrant stop signs at an intersection are based upon volume of traffic entering the intersection, the intersection accident history for 12 months and the prevailing speed of traffic. All criteria must be met to satisfy the request. Based on State warrants not being met and a favorable collision history, no traffic controls are mandated at this intersection at this time. Staff recommends the request be denied.

Commissioner Seminara made a motion to accept staff's recommendation to deny the request for a stop sign at the intersection of Raymond Avenue and Union Avenue. Vice-Chairman Hardwick seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.

City Traffic Engineer Miller stated the City received a request from the resident at 611 North Pomona Avenue asking that a disabled persons parking be designated on the street in front of his residence. Parking restrictions are now limited to one hour at this location. City Traffic Engineer Miller visited Mr. Negrete who has recently been disabled due to diabetes and is wheelchair bound and would like to pull up to his property in front of his house. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated 20 feet of blue curb would be painted at this location, but anyone with a handicap placard could park there. The blue curb would be removed if the resident moved or his condition changed.

Commissioner Seminara asked if Mr. Negrete is the property owner. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated that he is. Chairman Hawkins asked if there were wheelchair ramps at the corners on Pomona Avenue. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated there are no wheelchair ramps at the corners, but there is concrete sidewalk that comes to the curb. Chairman Hawkins stated the City should not have to pay for individual residential requests for disabled parking. Vice-Chairman Hardwick made a motion to accept staff's recommendation to install a disabled persons parking space in front of 611 North Pomona Avenue. Commissioner French seconded the motion and the motion passed with a 3 - 1 vote. Chairman Hawkins opposed.


Director of Engineering Hodson stated that since a Traffic Engineer has now been hired by the City, his first item of business is to form a School Safety Committee. The committee will consist of representatives of the Fullerton School District, the Transportation and Circulation Commission, the Fullerton Police Department Traffic Bureau, the Automobile Club (AAA) of Fullerton, PTSA and the City Traffic Engineer. City Traffic Engineer Miller stated they would like to meet before school begins in September and possibly bi-monthly for the first year. He suggested the first meeting be a training session regarding school safety and one of the first items of business will be the "Suggested Routes to School". These routes will be developed by City staff in conjunction with school principals and district staff once school starts in the fall. Director Hodson indicated that the high school district and college officials would be invited to periodically participate in the safety meetings.

Chairman Hawkins appointed Commissioner French as a School Safety Committee member representing the Transportation and Circulation Commission with Vice-Chairman Hardwick as an alternate. Chairman Hawkins also asked City Traffic Engineer Miller to let the Commission know when the School Safety Committee meeting will be so others might attend out of interest.

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:22 p.m. to the next regularly scheduled meeting of August 4, 1997 at 4:00 p.m.